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Post by Coin-Op Restorer on Jul 26, 2018 13:43:21 GMT
Wondering if anybody is reproducing Seeburg speakers, Iam needing some for a 100-JL.
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Post by Ron Rich on Jul 26, 2018 13:47:12 GMT
Gary, Yep-- Why do you "need" them ? Ron Rich
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Post by robnyc on Jul 26, 2018 15:14:55 GMT
Wondering if anybody is reproducing Seeburg speakers, Iam needing some for a 100-JL. Before anything else, determine if the cones in the originals are repairable. If not, consider a recone. this is the best overall for the 12". If none are present you can use anything from model R-up to LPC. After LPC they went to 5 ohm -so not usable here. The voicing varies abit along my suggested models, with the @@0-@@ having the broadest response and the LPC woofers having a fairly high free-air resonance -bit still OK. The closest you are likely to get are the Jensen Vintage line: www.jensentone.com/vintage-alnicoGoing by the spec's, my suggestions are: www.jensentone.com/vintage-alnico/p12rwww.jensentone.com/mod-series/mod-12-35www.jensentone.com/vintage-alnico/p12qwww.jensentone.com/vintage-alnico/p12n-no-bellwww.jensentone.com/vintage-ceramic/c12qThe above are generally voice for musical instrument service and are thus may be brighter than the originals. the prime considerations are efficiency and resonance frequency. The high the sensitivity number and the lower the resonance frequency-the better. Remember these must be 16 ohm. I strongly recommend adding a crossover or simple choke to get the highs out of the 12". If you have upgraded the pickup and high efficiency horn tweeter is also a good idea. If you want to sat closer to original, get a Seeburg crossover from a V-VL-K-201. RobNYC .
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Post by Coin-Op Restorer on Jul 26, 2018 17:04:51 GMT
Ron, I had this jukebox in my shop about 10yrs ago, it was in a basement that flooded, I sent the control center in for repairs, got it back, juke sounded great, he said it don’t sound as good, and thinks its the speakers, wanted me to replace them, i just finished restoring a Pepsi machine for him and Iam going to be there next Saturday, I suggest ohming it out first, but he lived about 4hrs away. So I was just checking to see if they had replacements.
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Post by Ron Rich on Jul 26, 2018 17:18:27 GMT
Gary, I seriously doubt the speakers are "bad"--even if they were under water-- themz were almost "bullet proof" "Ohming" them will prove nothing-if wet, you must check for "VC rub", by GENTLY, evenly, forcing the cones in/out--you should hear/feel nothing, if still good. If bad, I would re-cone them, rather than replace. Needles/ cart are a big factor as well as amplifier conditions. Which Amp is installed in it, and which cart/needles are being used ? Ron Rich
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Post by Coin-Op Restorer on Jul 26, 2018 17:52:02 GMT
Thx RobNYC appreciate the response, I will keep that in mind, it’s nice to have the option.
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Post by Coin-Op Restorer on Jul 26, 2018 17:58:33 GMT
Thx Ron, when Iam there next week, I will inspect the speakers, I asked him if he thought the needles might be the problem, he dident think so, I do have a spare redhead cartridge and needles That I will take just in case, thx again Ron
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