WurlAmatic Cover

[Michael from Indiana]

I saw a cover on EPay that the seller indicates fits on a 3700.  I do not have this cover and cannot find it in the parts catalog.  Seller claims it is a 'Cam & Gear Cover #136422' for a 3500 3600 3700 3800 1050 (see image).

Does anyone have any idea IF and WHERE this cover fits on a 3700?

Thanks!

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[Ron Rich]

Michael,

I know he is correct--it also fits a 3400 (but,wrong color !)-- but my memory won't give me a clear picture of exactly where it fits. I recall it uses to long 1/4 " hex head screws. I think it fits close to the edge of the mech shelf, nearest the front of the phono, to the slight left of the turntable. Ron Rich

[Michael from Indiana]

Thanks Ron. I honestly cannot figure out where it might go. My 3700 doesn't have it but don't want to buy it if I can't use it. Perhaps when I get it back together this weekend I'll take some close up pictures and post them. Might jog your memory!

Thanks again!

[jukenorman]

Jan 17, 2019 3:53:48 GMT Michael from Indiana said:

Thanks Ron. I honestly cannot figure out where it might go.

Item 35

[Michael from Indiana]

Thanks jukenorman

Something is wicked, wicked wrong here. The C&G assembly in my 3700 looks nothing like that in your image jukenorman (see my attached image). I certainly see where the cover is listed in your IPB but as you can see, it does not exist on mine. I did a sanity check and indeed my box is a 3700 (see image of dataplate
).


Another problem is that, in the service manual I have the controller is completely different to what is installed in my box. <sigh>



Whats going on?

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[Ron Rich]

Michael,
Me thinks (Guesses), that you have one of them there "El Cheepo" reprints of the manual, made by someone in his back room, using candle power.
See our FAQ's section and get thee a "legitimate" reprint, form one of the listed suppliers. ( I wood axk the suppliers if item # 35 is shown on the copy of that page, and also what do they show for a "controller" ? ). Ron Rich

[Michael from Indiana]

Jan 17, 2019 19:01:37 GMT Ron Rich said:

Michael,
Me thinks (Guesses), that you have one of them there "El Cheepo" reprints of the manual, made by someone in his back room, using candle power.
See our FAQ's section and get thee a "legitimate" reprint, form one of the listed suppliers. ( I wood axk the suppliers if item # 35 is shown on the copy of that page, and also what do they show for a "controller" ? ). Ron Rich

Ron,

Well, I 'think' that I got it from a legit source.  Bought several others from them and no problems at all.

The C&G Assembly in the SM I have IS what I have in my box, thus, my confusion on the WurlAmatic cover.  I have found that there are at least THREE DIFFERENT SMs (covers at least) for the Wurlitzer 3700 (see images-I have the blue SM).  Interesting indeed considering this box was only manufactured in 73 so i'm real confused about why there seem to be several 'legit' manuals (covers, as I can only confirm content of the blue one) out there.  Given your suggestion that the one I have is not legit (I don't necessarily disagree with you) I would also submit that (at least where MY particular 3700 is concerned) jukenormans is ALSO not legit because the C&G IPB in his SM does not match the hardware in my box...

Regarding item #35; the manual I have DOES NOT have item #35 but the associated C&G assembly in my box does not match ANYTHING on jukenormans IPB.  Soooooo, what say ye?

I'm guessing its gonna take someone with considerable experience and knowledge of the history of the 3700 and its many (legit?) service manuals to sort this out.  I for one do not intend to toss out $30-50 per manual seeking one which perfectly matches my box.

Hey jukenorman, does your SM have a lubrication chart in it?  Which SM cover do you have?  <just wonderin'> because mine does not....

Thanks Ron!

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[Michael from Indiana]

For the sake of sanity (and argument) how likely is it that Wurlitzer CHANGED the C&G assembly and the controller box and released another manual? <just spit-ballin' here>

[jukenorman]

OK, the diagram I posted is from a 3600 manual. The part number of item 35 is as stated in the first post (#136422). I don't actually have a 3700 manual (only 3600 and 3800) so used the 3600 parts list simply as an illustration of where the part should be fitted and where I vaguely recalled it shpuld be. There is no cover shown on the 3800 assy - maybe the 3700 is similar and the description of the item for sale is wrong? My apologies if I've caused confusion!
Norman.

[Ron Rich]

Michael,
If you have the first one you show--I think that is the factory manual--least the cover is the same. Like you wrote earlier,it's very possible changes were made and later manuals were printed. Seeburg often did just that--sometimes included both versions, other times "someone forgot" !
Note that the center one has a note--which if my eyes are not failing me too badly--says it was edited--- Ron Rich

[Michael from Indiana]

Thanks jukenorman! I think that you partially solved the mystery. I think that the 3600 was the last model to use that C&G assembly and that cover.

Thanks Ron! I am amused that they released several manuals for a one-year production run!

[Ron Rich]

Micheal,
Seeburg did not, they would usually just replace a page, and note "issue 2" on the bottom, unless they made many changes--then they might use * and other symbols to denote changes. Dono what WurliTzer did--?? Ron Rich