Just picked up a Seeburg LS1

[clintd]

Just picked this unit up from a antique shop in PA and boy does it need some work. The mechanism looks like someone oiled it with a paint sprayer, some of the wiring has fatigued and broke, the credit cancel pawl was held back with a self tapping screw and just generally dirty due to sitting in storage for a looooong time. On a positive note, I was able to get it to play with a little persuasion and the mechanism automatically rejected the record fine. This one is going to take some time to cleanup and it makes my other Rock-ola and AMI units look primitive as far as complexity.           



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[Hildegard]

Hi Clint,

A new challenge - great!
I agree on complexity. While Rock-Ola and AMI used three motors for all movements, Seeburg used just one. So a lot to learn.
Also with LS3 Seeburg invented the digital selection system "Microlog" and "Black and Grey Boxes" were used.
If you want to dive more into this, Ron Rich made two great books: "Seeburg Mechanism Guide" and "The Seeburg Microlog Jukebox". They do not replace the service manual but they continue where a manual from back then (mostly) ends.

Enjoy the Apollo - Hildegard

[clintd]

Nov 4, 2019 9:52:14 GMT Hildegard said:

Hi Clint,

A new challenge - great!
I agree on complexity. While Rock-Ola and AMI used three motors for all movements, Seeburg used just one. So a lot to learn.
Also with LS3 Seeburg invented the digital selection system "Microlog" and "Black and Grey Boxes" were used.
If you want to dive more into this, Ron Rich made two great books: "Seeburg Mechanism Guide" and "The Seeburg Microlog Jukebox". They do not replace the service manual but they continue where a manual from back then (mostly) ends.

Enjoy the Apollo - Hildegard

Found out that what was keeping it from loading records was that the guides on the arm were bent and interfering with the sides of the slot, but this unit is going to have to be recapped for sure and thoroughly cleaned. This one going to have to be moved into the basement where I can take it completely apart, label everything, clean, paint, find replacement parts and lubricate all moving parts. The thing I like about AMI and Rockola is that you can see just about every moving part and it's easy to see how it operates, this Seeburg looks like ENIAC to me as far as the mechanism. 

[Ron Rich]

Hi Clint,
It's all a mater of what you're familiar with-- I find Seeburg the least intimidating, partly due to the fact that only one motor is- used. In which case the mechanism HAS too follow certain rules of operation--no "other motor" can cause a "jamb".
Hildegard made a slight error-- the "Apolo" was the "marketing name", of the LS-3 series, while you have the earlier LS-1 "Spectra". Hildegard--thanks for the "plug" for the Guides. Ron Rich

[Hildegard]

Hi Ron,

Of course you are right - even the subject line says LS1. I should have read better.

Clint, forget about the Microlog manual (unless you get a LS3 or so one day  ).

Hildegard

[Ron Rich]

Hi Hildegard, Clint.
No big deal-I never am rong--just not always write--er, rite-NO, CORRECT ! But I will/can sell you, or anyone who wishes, both guides if you should wish--just don't try to use the MicroLog Guide with other than a MicroLog model. Ron Rich