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Post by misterv on Nov 24, 2020 19:31:56 GMT
This isn't an endorsement, just a question. As anyone who reads the Seeburg side of things here, it's no mystery that I'm sorting out an AY100 that hasn't played in 30 years. In the service guides, the original oil was said to be a 20w, branded as Seeburg... and the closest thing I find to that is "Electric Motor Oil" by 3-in-1.
In the process of getting that, I ran across a product called Liquid bearings which is a synthetic oil that is supposed to be stable in a wider range of temps, and NOT turn to glue with age. The maker recommended it for Jukeboxes and Pinball machines. I got a bottle, and the needle applicator is great.
I was curious if anyone else had taken this product for a spin, as it seems to do a really good job in the places I've tried it (cuckoo clocks).... and my goodness is it slick.
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Post by dalton on Nov 24, 2020 20:11:31 GMT
I haven't used it, but I know others have a strong opinion against it.
My doubts are it doesn't clearly list the weight of the oil, and it resembles another popular oil on ebay, "Liberty Oil". Both of them are supposedly the best for lubricating everything. If that was the case, I'm sure a manufacturer would call for it by name for their products.
Another issue is cost. Compare the cost of one bottle of their product (lowest I can find is $9.99 for 2 oz) vs 3 in 1 Electric Motor Oil ($2.18 for 3 oz on Amazon, with next day shipping too!). 3 in 1 Electric Motor Oil clearly lists what it is, a 20wt non detergent motor oil, and has available data sheets you can find with a little bit of googling. The Liberty/Liquid Bearings don't have any verifiable data you can find, only their web page claims or their listings.
I'd pick up the 3 in 1 motor oil. Somewhere in the FAQ section I know it is called out by name as a recommended oil.
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Post by misterv on Nov 24, 2020 21:37:20 GMT
I actually have both.... I used the 3-in-1 product on the juke... but I figured I'd try the Liquid Bearings on the clocks, since they use a lighter oil. It seems to have some really good penetrating/wicking qualities, as it was able to free up the music box mech on a cuckoo clock that I'd been fighting and DREADING taking apart.. and it did save me that task.
I am not a fan of "industry secret technology"... where they don't tell you what's in it... Then again, if you knew what was in some products you'd just make them yourself for cheap.
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Post by Ron Rich on Nov 24, 2020 23:46:09 GMT
I can just about guess what's in it-- it has been around for at least 60 years-- Long ago, I worked for a company called "Wynn's Friction Proofing". They made either an identical, or very close to this product. Also available at that time was "STP"-- I think both may still be "around"-- These are not good in "brass bearings", as used in most jukeboxes ! See the discussion on TIMO in the stickies ! Ron Rich
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Post by misterv on Nov 25, 2020 0:13:16 GMT
I can just about guess what's in it-- it has been around for at least 60 years-- Long ago, I worked for a company called "Wynn's Friction Proofing". They made either an identical, or very close to this product. Also available at that time was "STP"-- I think both may still be "around"-- These are not good in "brass bearings", as used in most jukeboxes ! See the discussion on TIMO in the stickies ! Ron Rich I looked for this discussion and couldn't find it. |
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Post by Ron Rich on Nov 25, 2020 3:36:11 GMT
You have not l@@ked too hard-- Try the FAQ's section or the Seeburg Section or the Off Topic Scams section--- Ron Rich
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