Rowe CD100-A displays 0 after being shut off while playing

[bjwizzer]

Hello Addicts and Happy New Year,

I have been playing this CD100-A for a while, since my cd player fiasco,  in my shop without any issues.

Today, I was waiting for my Wife to get ready to go to dinner, so I went to my shop and started playing
the CD100-A after about 40 minutes she calls and says to come right away as she is already in the car!

So I started shutting off the heater and lights and in my haste I shut off the CD100-A while it was playing
It was on a switched outlet that also has a light plugged in it.

After swearing a bit I left the shop and went to dinner.
When I got back this what I came back to;

After turning the CD100-A the CD was put back and I saw an "out of order" message on the display.
The CCC board (V 3.7) both error lights on
I put the machine in Service Mode and cleared the error, put the Cd100-A back in normal position.
The display went through the normal checks then went to "play the music".

BUT instead of displaying "FREE" it displayed "0" and the all selector buttons were inactive.
I don't think there is an issue in the selection keyboard because it operates in the "Service" mode.
I even tried "Factory Defaults" which gave me an 04-14 error which is normal when doing a Factory Default.

Ha anyone ever had this issue or have any suggestions?

bjwizzer

[Ron Rich]

BJ,
That little round thing soldered inside the CCC is starting to k-rap out-- Change the battery ! Ron Rich

[bjwizzer]

Ron,

I measured the "little round thing" aka -Battery, it measures 3.6 volts DC of course.

bjwizzer

[Ron Rich]

BJ,
Dono then--- What was the error code -if any?   didja try setting it on Free Play, again ?   Ron Rich

[bjwizzer]

Ron,

I got the CD100-A running, here is what I think happened.

When I accidently shut the Cd100-A off while playing, then I turned it back on
giving me the "out of order" prompt, the configuration took a dump.

So when I cleared that error and put the service switch back to "normal" there
no valid configuration, giving me the "0".
I did the "factory defaults" and got the same "0" prompt.

I did check the soldered in battery which measured 3.6 VDC.
I pulled the CCC and unsoldered the battery and let the CCC sit for about 15 minutes.
Put the battery back in, powered of the CD100-A and got the "0" again.
At that point I put the jukebox back into "service" mode and did a "55" code for Free play
then I entered a 6992 for Free Album, put the jukebox back to "normal" and
don't you know the "Free" prompt displayed!

I did a full initialize and everything is working fine!

Ron, you were right on 2 points;
1: A bad battery will cause the loss of the configuration.
2: Who knew that a "0" prompt display would indicate a bad/factory default- Ron you did!

Thanks!

bjwizzer

[Ron Rich]

Hi BJ,
Just curious-- which CCC is installed in that one - the -01 or -20 ?

[bjwizzer]

Ron,

The CCC in this box is the -01

bj

[Ron Rich]

BJ,
Hold it with the power regulator up, and to your left-- look to see if a resistor/cam combination has been installed along the left edge, under the heat-sink. If not there, it needs addition !

[bjwizzer]

Ron,

I pulled the CCC and there is a resistor at position R91 under the heatsink, but no capacitor.

I have an extra 40832220 CCC, so I checked that one and saw the resistor and cap under the heatsink.

I also another 01 CCC board, only that one has been used for parts, that one has a .1 mfd 16v capacitor
soldered on the underside of the board across where the resistor is soldered to the board.

I'm thinking of taking that "cap" and putting it on the board of my CD100-A.

Do I have you approval?

bjwizzer

[Ron Rich]

BJ,
Not that it's needed, but , sure do ! As that should prevent what happened to it afore you soldered on that cap !
Ron Rich

[bjwizzer]

Ron,

I installed the capacitor on to the 40832220 CCC board.

But the CCC was still acting up, on power up the display would display garbage.
The display never showed the "check sum" value, it never did before either.
When put into service mode it displayed the error Warn: 14-01 check sum fail - always did that.

So I took the v4.3 Eprom off of the parts CCC and installed it on the 40832220 CCC and after doing
a factory reset and full initialize it seems to have corrected all my issues.

I still do occasionally get the Rowe Link error when I put the machine from service back to the normal position.

I don't have the book in front of me to give you the exact error, but it's the one where it can't establish
a link within a certain amount of time. (I'll send the error later)

I'll play the machine some more and try using the service mode for other option just to see if
I can produce the error more often.

Thanks,

BJ

[Ron Rich]

BJ,
If an 05-62 or 63 error-- see the above "sticky", on common problems---
Ron Rich

[bjwizzer]

Ron,

The Warn 14-01 check sum error is a thing of the past.

As for the 05-63 Rowe Link error, I don't know why I missed this, but the
Rowe Link cable was plugged into the P9 connector on the Mech Control Computer.

I checked my CD100-B and the Rowe Link cable was plugged into the 3 pin Rowe Link (pin 1 was missing),
so I plugged the Rowe Link cable to the CD100-A MCC P8 connector.

Do you think this was my intromittent 05-63 error problem?
Also, what was the P9 connector used for on the CD100-A?

I have manuals for the CD100 B, E, F, but not for this CD100-A

One more thing, did you ever hear of the TALIH Combo - 4 Board? (I know you have)

BJ

[Ron Rich]

BJ,
The Rowe CD's were all the same in the plugs up to about the model J or K -- Any of those manuals should work.
05 -63 error-- depends on which RL cable was installed wrongly--P-9 was the same on all--
Nope--TALIH is not in my vocabulary ?? Ron Rich