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Post by Ron Rich on Mar 6, 2021 13:57:34 GMT
Hi All, Rowe part numbers starting about the time of the R-84 phono were 6 digits long. Older part numbers were broken up with dashes-- at some-point, when they got a new computer, the dashes were eliminated. Either way, the last two digits represent the revision number. If a part has the same part number, it should interchange with any other part with that number. Ron Rich
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Post by mick4116 on Mar 9, 2021 11:21:22 GMT
Glad that you put this up Ron, have a question i know that rowe amps like 6-07438 are interchangeable like you told me before, but i came across an amp looks the same but this ones part number is 601-07438 so its 601 instead of 6 the 07438 part remains the same so just checking thanks
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Post by Ron Rich on Mar 9, 2021 14:33:29 GMT
Hi John, I dono-- never saw a Rowe part number more then 8 numbers long-- check the "plugs"-- If the same, I would ASSume it should work ?? Ron Rich
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Post by mick4116 on Mar 10, 2021 5:48:46 GMT
Its on ebay listed as coming out of a R83 strange but it looks exactly like the others same circuit boards switches and the rest john
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Post by jukenorman on Mar 10, 2021 10:28:48 GMT
Hi John, I looked in the R83 parts list - the amplifier is listed as 6-07438-01 although the picture of the amp has 601-07438 printed on the cover. In any case, that amplifier might as a minimum, require a special adapter harness if you are using it to replace the 6-07438-04 in the R86. The compatability charts for the R85 and R87 (I don't have an R86 manual) are a bit confusing because they use the part numbers of the amplifier and output transformer package ie 6-07439. The 6-07438-01 amp forms part of 6-07439-01 (amp + transformers) but that does not feature in the compatability charts. The version 6-07439-02 (R85) - with 6-07438-02 amp - does feature on the compatability chart but requires a special adapter harness (Note J on the compatabilty chart) for the R87. My understanding is that the 6-07438-04 and 6-07438-06 (6-07439-05 pkg) amplifiers are directly interchangeable. It looks like that you could also use the 50W RI-4 and RI-5 amplifiers. Norman.
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Post by mick4116 on Mar 10, 2021 12:07:45 GMT
thanks ron its a bit confusing i think i will steer clear of that AMP, just thinking of getting it as a spare but will leave it i think, still someone on the forum might want a r83 amp. i have the r-86 manual for mine have to read it line by line i am learning though slowly, lol
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Post by TCW on Apr 29, 2021 18:59:58 GMT
Sorry, old documents need to be retyped sometimes. I hope this is helpful. - Tom Walker
Compatibility Chart
| Part Number | Description | R-88 Video | R-89 | R-89 Video | Central Control Computer | 4-07773-01 4-07773-02 |
| STD ---- | ---- STD | ----
STD | Wall Box Interface | 6-09843-01 6-09843-02 6-09843-03 | WRD WRA-WRC WRE | Note W Note W | STD STD | STD STD | Amplifier | 6-07439-05 6-07439-04 6-07439-02 6-09189-01 6-09189-02 | {125W Includes Output Transformers}
50W R1-4, R1-5 50W R1-4, R1-5 | {STD {OK {Note J OK OK | STD OK Note J OK OK | STD OK Note J OK OK | Mechanism Assembly | 6-08700-01 6-08700-02 | 60HZ 50HZ | STD OK | STD OK | STD OK | Mech. Control | 4-07221-02 4-07221-03 | No Automix | STD OK | OK OK | OK OK | Power Supply | 4-07706-01 4-65092-01 | Domestic Export | STD Note N | STD Note N | STD Note N | Flashing Light Control | 4-07800-01 | Bar Graph | ---- | STD | ---- | OBA | 6-50570-03 6-50570-12
| | STD OK | ---- STD | ---- STD | Video Controller | 4-07705-01
| | STD | STD | STD | Graphics Controller | 4-07774-01
| | STD | STD | STD | Video Cassette Recorder | 6-09719-01
| | STD | STD | STD | Power Supply (Video) | 4-07776-01
| | STD | STD | STD |
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A. OK - Same Features as R-84. B. OK - Same Features as R-85. If -03 CR -04 Price BD C. OK - Same Features as R-84. If -02 CR -03 Price BD D. Diodes 353 & 354 not available. #334 gives 160 plays. E. OK but same price features as R-84. F. OK but same price features as R-84 unless compatible computer board. G. Added CR. Level Ratios. Added 16 play Diode. Changed 120 to 160 play (labeled R1-3). H. 6-08988-02 Piggyback alternate using prom. I. Needs special tone arm cable and volume control (included in kit). J. Needs special adapter harness. K. OK remove mech mount plate and mount to bottom frame.Tom Walker
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Post by TCW on May 18, 2021 16:59:15 GMT
I would use caution when referring to this chart. It was offered to me by one of the recommended resources however they had not checked it or used it.
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Post by Ron Rich on May 18, 2021 17:10:37 GMT
Hi Tom, Where is the above chart from-- any date on it ?? Ron Rich
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Post by TCW on May 19, 2021 17:21:44 GMT
Hi Ron,
I would use caution when referring to this chart. It was offered to me by one of the recommended resources however they had not checked or used it to know how accurate it is. I would think of it as a good building block for a confirmed chart in the future. otherwise you could simply delete the post if you don't think its worth the effort.
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Post by Ron Rich on May 19, 2021 18:11:07 GMT
Hi Tom, Rowe has had several "series" of part numbers-- I think this may be one of the earliest I have seen ? AMi kept the same numbering system for many years--Rowe came along and changed it-- but I don't think this was from AMi, to Rowe ? Ron Rich
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Post by TCW on May 20, 2021 13:56:46 GMT
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Post by Ken Layton on May 20, 2021 16:31:28 GMT
The Rowe R89 and R90 "Shop" (not Field) manuals had Rowe part numbers to generic part numbers on the last two pages of the manuals.
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Post by darrenf on Apr 22, 2024 22:08:40 GMT
The Rowe R89 and R90 "Shop" (not Field) manuals had Rowe part numbers to generic part numbers on the last two pages of the manuals. In memory of Ken, I typed up the last two pages from the manual he referred to here, and cross-referenced it with some other sources to add a 3rd column. I didn't type up the manufacturer info from the Shop manual, as I believe it to be of little use (in many cases the manufacturer is implied by the part number. RIP Ken.
Rowe P/N replacment P/N(s) description ---------- ------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2-16283-03 1N5401 DIODE, 100V 3A 2-16284-08 TIP115 TRANSISTOR, PNP 60V 2A TO-220 2-16284-12 LM340T VOLTAGE REGULATOR, 1.5A 2-17667-01 TIL312, NSN71L LED DISPLAY, COMMON ANODE, 1/3", LEFT-HAND DECIMAL 2-17667-04 MAN6760, LN516RA LED DISPLAY, 7-SEGMENT, COMMON ANODE, 0.56" 2-17667-08 NAR161B, LN516RA LED DISPLAY, 7-SEGMENT, COMMON ANODE 2-18825-04 KBPC-601, BR-61 BRIDGE RECTIFIER, 100V 6A 3-00802-06 RC4739, XR4739CP DUAL OP-AMP 3-08002-09 LM3914N DOT/BAR DISPLAY DRIVER 3-08002-15 LM348N QUAD OP-AMP (4741) 3-08002-16 LM324N QUAD OP-AMP 7-00300-08 MPSA06 TRANSISTOR, NPN 80V 0.5A TO-92 7-00301-04 MPSA56 TRANSISTOR, PNP 80V 0.5A 7-00302-02 MPSA14 TRANSISTOR, NPN DARLINGTON 7-00302-09 NSD445, 2N6548 (w/o tab) TRANSISTOR, 7-00302-12 D41K1 TRANSISTOR, PNP DARLINGTON PWR 30V 2A TO-202 7-00302-13 MPSA25 TRANSISTOR, NPN DARLINGTON AMP 40V 7-00303-01 2N2919 TRANSISTOR, NPN DUAL 50V 30MA MD8002 7-00308-05 TIP115 TRANSISTOR, PNP DARLINGTON PWR 60V 7-00308-07 2N6055 TRANSISTOR, NPN DARLINGTON PWR 60V 7-00311-01 MPS-U01A, NSD-U01A TRANSISTOR, SWITCHING (NPN) 7-00313-01 2N4124 TRANSISTOR, NPN 25V 200MA 7-00337-02 PS2010, 4N26, H11A4 IC, PHOTOCOUPLER OPTO-ISOLATOR 7-00337-03 MOC3010, GE3010, MCP3010 IC, PHOTOCOUPLER OPTO-TRIAC 7-00338-01 NE555P, NE555V, MC1455P1 IC, TIMER 555 DIP-8 7-00340-01 CD4001SE, MC14001CP, CD4001CN IC, QUAD 2-INPUT NOR GATE CMOS 7-00340-24 MC1402CP, TP4024BN, CD4024BCN IC, 7-STAGE RIPPLE CARRY BIN CTR CMOS 7-00340-28 CD4028BD, 4028AN, MC14028CP IC, DECODER BIN/DEC CMOS 7-00340-49 CD4049, TC4049BP IC, HEX BUF/CONV INVTR CMOS 7-00340-66 CD4066BE, 4066BP, MC14066BP IC, QUAD ANALOG SWITCH/MUX 7-00342-02 MM5450N, M5450B7 IC, DISPLAY DRIVER 5450 DIP-40 7-00350-02 1N4004 DIODE-SILICON 1N4004 7-00350-04 1N5401 DIODE, RECT 100V 3A 1N5401 T/R 7-00350-05 1N4004 DIODE-SILICON 1N4004 7-00350-07 1N914B DIODE, SIGNAL 75V .75A 1N914B 7-00350-12 1N4148 DIODE-SILICON 1N4148 7-00352-20 1N5231B-M DIODE, ZENER 5.1V 7-00353-03 NSL6053, MV5303 LED, VISIBLE RED DIF T1-3/4 3V 7-00353-05 FLV550 LED, VISIBLE RED DIF T1-3/4 7-00355-01 1N4733A DIODE-ZENER 5.1V 5% 7-00355-06 1N4750A DIODE-ZENER, 13V 1W 5% 1N4743A T/R 7-00355-14 1N4750A DIODE-ZENER, 10V 0.4W 5% 1N961B T/R 7-00355-20 1N958B DIODE-ZENER, 7.5V 0.4W 5% 1N958B T/R 7-00365-03 TMS4116-20NL, MBB1416-15 IC, RAM 16K X 1 DRAM 7-00365-05 LM340T-5.0 VOLTAGE REGULATOR, 5V LINEAR LM340T-5.0 7-00365-07 LM317T, LM317KC VOLTAGE REGULATOR, ADJ 1.5A TO-220 7-00365-08 LM337T, LM337KC VOLTAGE REGULATOR, NEG ADJ 1.5A TO-220 7-00365-12 LM317LZ, TL317CLP VOLTAGE REGULATOR, ADJ 0.1A TO-92 7-00366-01 UPC5101-LC, MCM51LO1P65 IC, RAM 256 X 4 STATIC CMOS 7-00366-02 MPD446, MSM5128-2ORS, HM6116LP IC, RAM 2K X 8 STATIC CMOS 7-00368-01 LM339N, MC3302P, CA339E IC, QUAD COMPARATOR 3302/LM339 7-00369-01 ULN2003N, 9667PC, MC1413CP IC, DARLINGTON ARRAY ULN2003 7-00371-02 74LS00 IC, QUAD NAND GATES 7-00371-04 74LS138 IC, 8-TO-3 LINE DECODER 7-00371-06 74LS151 IC, 8-INPUT MULTIPLEXER 7-00371-07 74LS04 IC, HEX INVERTER 7-00371-09 74LS112 IC, DUAL J-K FLIP-FLOP 7-00371-10 74LS08 IC, QUAD AND GATES 7-00372-01 74C04 IC, HEX INVERTER, CMOS 7-00379-01 MC54174/HC139 THYRISTOR, TRIAC 400V 6A 10W 7-00381-02 TS25DOD, T2500D, XSC141DX TRIAC, 400V 6A 7-00391-03 SYP6520 IC, PERIPHERAL INTERFACE ADAPTOR 6520 7-00391-14 R6502P, SY6502P IC, MICROPROCESSOR 6502 DIP-40
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