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Post by Deadhead Japan on Feb 13, 2024 21:16:08 GMT
***Moved here from another thread to prevent hijacking***
Don’t buy a manual… There are plenty of places online to obtain a manual for free. As Norman said, there are plenty threads to assist you with troubleshooting. If you look at my thread that was started recently. I almost had issues at every sequential step. That would be good starting place. Neal |
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Feb 14, 2024 5:40:40 GMT
Don’t buy a manual… There are plenty of places online to obtain a manual for free.
Around here we never recommend NOT buying a proper manual. Printed manuals from a reputable source are usually far superior to manuals found online:"Online" stuff either "free", or paid, is usually very poor, IMHO. Other info is available all over the place--see the list of world wide suppliers, in the next post. below. I do not have that manual. I purchased a service manual online a while back before I knew about this group. I downloaded it. I can read the text but the schematics are as blurry as a picture of Bigfoot. Pretty much worthless. Hi Peter, I would not bother with "online" stuff, especially in this case--I would directly ASK the guy's listed in our FAQ's section, as they are the producers (or at least copiers) of today's manuals. Ron Rich Hi Andy, This is why we strongly urge people (in our FAQ's section), not to spend money on "online" manuals-- seldom are they correct/complete ! Contact someone listed and get a mechanism manual--- Ron Rich I ordered a set of printed manual/troubleshooting guides with schematics because up to this point I have been using the online PDF which is horrible for reading the schematic and although it shows sequences, the small print is horrible and printing all 107 pages would be a waste of ink/paper. Thx for your input, Ron. I've noticed that the service manual PDF i purchased online is just not sufficient to help me tackle this project. I only discovered this forum after purchasing it, if it were the other way around, I would have read the warning about incomplete service manuals floating around. Luckily it was only 5 euro. I see now I first should acquire the necessary (and complete!) documentation before proceeding. Kind regards, Kevin |
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Post by Deadhead Japan on Feb 14, 2024 15:46:18 GMT
Marty,
The key thing you mentioned is "usually"... Unfortunately, I have purchased a paper manual from a eBay vendor and was burned because it was the same copy as the PDF that I had in hand. Therefore, in my opinion, always try to obtain a free manual online first. If the information is not there, then there is always the option to obtain the manual elsewhere. In the case of the Continental, all of the copies of I have obtain online were in similar quality as the very reputable company in the Midwest.
Just my two cents..
Neal
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Feb 14, 2024 17:06:54 GMT
Marty, The key thing you mentioned is "usually"... Unfortunately, I have purchased a paper manual from a eBay vendor and was burned because it was the same copy as the PDF that I had in hand. Therefore, in my opinion, always try to obtain a free manual online first. If the information is not there, then there is always the option to obtain the manual elsewhere. In the case of the Continental, all of the copies of I have obtain online were in similar quality as the very reputable company in the Midwest. Just my two cents.. Neal
It's great your experience in obtaining online manuals was good for you, sometimes it's good for me! And many times it's better than no manual at all! But what did you expect from eBay?
But please don't use your 'two cents' to discourage people from buying their manuals from one of the reputable sources available... such as the 'very reputable company in the Midwest'.
Thanks!
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Post by Deadhead Japan on Feb 14, 2024 19:15:59 GMT
Marty,
I was merely trying to point out to save money when/where you can and was not trying to persuade folks from not purchasing a high quality manual. This hobby is a very expensive one.
As far as eBay. fortunately for me, I have been very lucky with various eBay vendors over the years and really can't complain, just that one time.
Without a doubt, a complete, high quality manual is indispensable, especially the one that comes from the Midwest company. I have had nothing but great experiences dealing with them and they come highly recommended!
Kind regards,
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Feb 14, 2024 21:51:04 GMT
I confess. I have a horde of free downloaded manuals.
I'm a cheapskate.
But back in the day I was an AMR Publishing dealer (presently owned by Victory Glass), so I know the quality of of what Frank Adams started.
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Post by jukenorman on Feb 16, 2024 14:51:45 GMT
As well as a cupboard and filing cabinet full of original manuals, photocopies of originals and AMR reprints, I also have a stack of downloads. Generally, I don't use the downloads for any of my own repairs - I much prefer a good quality hard copy, particularly for the ease of flipping between pages. But the downloads are very useful for dealing with queries from the forum, even if it's only to state "see the diagram on page XX" - even if I can hardly read it because of the poor quality! But I also have some downloaded material that is of remarkable quality; an example is the large overall schematic of the Rock-Ola 1458, somebody did a great job there.
Norman.
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Post by nyjb on Mar 21, 2024 16:36:37 GMT
Heads up. A vendor of online jukebox manuals sells digital downloads that you can't print. There's a workaround of course, but I was very annoyed that it wasn't clear up front.
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