TCW
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Post by TCW on Jul 5, 2021 15:33:12 GMT
Well I did it, Yesterday (Independence Day) I liberated (bought) a Wurlitzer 2810 (see below). My first Wurlitzer. It had been in this basement just over 40 years. There was no power in this place to test anything so much is unknown. I started by taking the amp and record changer assembly out of it and then remove the lid to get it to fit through the stairwell that had since been remodeled. The empty cabinet was still hundreds of pounds. Its in my garage now still in pieces. With it apart like this I can do an assessment of the amp and record changer assembly (this thing is huge). Any suggested first steps are welcome. What a heavily designed piece of equipment. Tom
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Post by TCW on Jul 7, 2021 15:38:16 GMT
Hi, This model 2810 has these 3 little ball that surround the back of the clear plastic Record Guide Plate (Page 72) . I found one loose in the machine. Are these just glued into place? I can't see how the other two are affixed. There just kind of stuck there. I also found a loose double conical spring (example of a double conical spring below) about a quarter inch long. Any ideas where it might be missing from? - Tom
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Post by Ron Rich on Jul 7, 2021 22:09:30 GMT
Hi Tom, WurliTzer had a "magical brain" they developed during WW2. It fused them thar balls to the fan-- Hint: before you glue it back, be 100% sure it is in the exact same orientation. - I like Testors (brand) model aereoplane C-ment-- but epoxy will probably do the job too -- Springs ? Hard to tell the size of them from here-- look at the two switches in the back--mute-play and other one-- one or both used a spring of that type as the over center spring-- also, is the tone arm pressure spring in place ? Ron Rich
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TCW
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Post by TCW on Jul 8, 2021 22:30:27 GMT
Ron, Here is a size reference for you for the spring, I also threw in the detached ball. I was disappointed to discover that one of the woofers is not original. Its been replace by a Jensen loud speaker. - Tom
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Post by Ron Rich on Jul 8, 2021 23:46:28 GMT
Hi Tom, Sorry-- I dono where that spring is from ? Ron Rich
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Post by whammoed on Jul 9, 2021 15:17:15 GMT
Ugh, mystery spring. Been there and also have no idea where that goes. Must be a spare part.
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Post by jukenorman on Jul 9, 2021 15:37:48 GMT
Hi Tom, While I might be disappointed that a speaker is not original, that would be well offset by discovering it had been replaced by a Jensen!
Norman.
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Post by Ron Rich on Jul 9, 2021 17:26:11 GMT
I think I would also be dis-appointed-- WurliTzer, as well a most phono makers, designed their sound system from needle, to speakers, and any change, could change the "WurliTzer sound" I think I would purchase an original ?? Ron Rich
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TCW
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Post by TCW on Jul 10, 2021 3:03:41 GMT
Hi Tom, While I might be disappointed that a speaker is not original, that would be well offset by discovering it had been replaced by a Jensen! Norman. I'm looking forward to the recaping and the partial retubing of this amp so I can get a listen to this unmatched pairing. I'm putting the mechanicals back in the cabinet tomorrow to see what's gonna work and what's in need of adjustment. There is a bit going on there to be sure. - Tom
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Post by Ron Rich on Jul 10, 2021 12:17:00 GMT
Hi Tom, NO--zero--- adjustments are needed, unless some bozo has maladjusted it ! Ron Rich !
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Post by TCW on Jul 31, 2021 22:24:37 GMT
So, I finished recapping the amp and replacing one cap that failed... (my fault, it was originally a paper can, my first and I misunderstood what I thought was a ground. A nice little oil spill and smoke plume occurred).
I have cleaned and reapplied fresh lube everywhere I could find. I flipped the switch on the amp and the lights came on and the spindle was turning. This was because a pin was up. If I manually reset the pins it will stop spinning. I can get most of the record selections to actuate the associated solenoid however it will not travel it just sits there spinning with the right record lift arm at the waiting.
I can never leave well enough alone so I looked for the start switch (Fig 20 Page 11) and held it in. The Record Lift arm dropped so I let go and it stopped. I put a record in that slot. I went back and held the start switch in again and it made the full cycle and lifted the record into place and the spindle grabber received the record and pulled it onto the hub and the mute came away and the amp came up and played the record and when done the amp mutes and the arm lifted the needle and the hub just continues to spin.
If I hold the start switch again it will lower the record and if I continue to hold the switch it will lift it up again and the whole loop stars over. It wouldn't reset the pin so I had a look at the release lever and associated toggle. It was bent way down so straitened it all out and made sure the switch was being applied as it should so now it does reset the pin and stop spinning. Any recommendations as to where to begin from here? This was my first time seeing a Wurlitzer operate in person. Thanks!
Tom
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Post by Ron Rich on Aug 1, 2021 4:04:36 GMT
OK--WHAT/Where, are you calling a START SWITCH ? Ron Rich
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TCW
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Post by TCW on Aug 2, 2021 16:27:01 GMT
Hi Ron, Thanks for taking my question. This guy here (fore whatever reason Casimages has rotated the image counter clockwise). Did I misidentify this or is it also called a Carriage Switch? - Tom
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Post by Ron Rich on Aug 2, 2021 18:21:58 GMT
Hi Tom, I don't know the 100 mech too well and can't determine where these switches are-- how about a wider view--maybe I'll figure it out ? Ron Rich
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Post by TCW on Aug 2, 2021 22:03:34 GMT
Ron, Here ya go.
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