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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 13, 2023 0:41:30 GMT
And even better a video of the selector switch and mute switch action would so wonderful.
Thank you
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Oct 13, 2023 2:00:47 GMT
I asked.... Did you get those two switches functioning properly? You answered... Well, in sorts, yes and no. The answer is either yes or no. If Yes, maybe you need to check other things such as the record reject switch. If No, these switches must work properly for the machine to cycle correctly. Now I'll be a little blunt...For the most part, a visual inspection should determine whether or not your switches are functioning correctly (at least mechanically). Overall, this is pretty simple. Someone may be able to create a video for you, but quite frankly you have enough in front of you to figure this out. Also see forum rule #9... jukeboxaddicts.proboards.com/thread/4249/forum-rules |
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 13, 2023 3:44:27 GMT
What my son meant,
Is that the overhead spring is functioning property in comparison of the one that was previously installed.
But overall was still not functioning .
I did adjust the stransfer switch following the manual .
It does acting properly, but I still have trouble with the mute/and play switch .
But basically we are back to square one.
The Jukebox still doesn't work.
Now concerning rule #9,
I sure do not have any knowledge in Jukebox mechanics, I am use to fix pinball machine or cars.
But I do love the machine and the Era it represent.
Now, when I bought that piece it was filthy and we try to give it is glory back, unfortunately things apparently didn't go our way.
And this Jukebox is to big to keep as a table lamp.
So we looked around and found this forum and sick for help, sorry if our dumb questions bother you,
And yes a Jukebox isn't a pinball machine.
But believe me if I had the knowledge I wouldn't be asking for help, but instead will gladly help others.
Thank you
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Oct 13, 2023 4:26:33 GMT
If you can fix a pinball machine, you can certainly tell if these two switches are working correctly.
If and when these switches are operating correctly, we can move to the next step.
Your questions are not dumb, but we need to take things step by step, as possible issues are dealt with.
I've spent a fair amount of time contemplating your issue and searching the service manuals in an attempt to give you competent advice, but maybe we're at an impasse.
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 13, 2023 17:55:29 GMT
I will regroupe over the weekend.
And re-check everything.
There is many moving part, and I don't really understand the sequence.
That's why sometime a visual is very helpful for me.
The transfer switch is adjusted properly,now while adjusting the mute and play switch, I
realized that the thread protection on the adjuster screw was missing and was creating a small electric arc on the switch plate (I order some new one)
And take the time to re-read the manual.
And again knowl that we are thankful for your
help.
I'll try to be more precise .
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Oct 13, 2023 19:47:14 GMT
The service manual for the 2800 does not have a section outlining the sequence of operation or sequence diagrams. This info can be found in the Wurlitzer 2100 service manual. Please keep in mind that the 2100 and 2800 differ in architecture, but the basic flow and sequence of operation is (mostly) the same. I'm including a temporary link so you can download it. After you download it let me know, then I'll remove the link.
***link deleted*** The descriptions are terse, but I'm sure you will find it somewhat helpful. |
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 14, 2023 2:07:37 GMT
Done thank you so much
That's going to be super helpful to have a guide line.
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 17, 2023 1:17:53 GMT
So I worked on adjusting the switches ( mute & play and transfer switch) Got some action. But some reason the mute and play actuator arm doesn't really move I can't really understand why. Also I sm back to the staccato movement until I manually push down the selector pin. Still no movement with the arms. youtu.be/OpbELQ13FOQ?si=Akh9etFvZvM0MjOy |
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Oct 17, 2023 4:40:29 GMT
As it rotates, the selector crank arm should strike a selected latch pin on the electrical selector.
Does this happen? What happens once the latch pin is stuck?
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 17, 2023 15:27:17 GMT
So,no, the selector crank arm will be spinning around in the upper position, therefore it would never strike the selected latch pin.
And would keep doing it till I would manually push the pin back in it's position,only then the selector arm crank would stop rotating.
I also realized that at that point the record lift arms would be stuck unless I depressed manually the carriage switch.
But also as you can see no motions in the mute&play arm actuator.
Let me know if you need a better or more precise video or pictures.
Thank you.
At the p
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 18, 2023 2:38:09 GMT
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Oct 19, 2023 18:44:53 GMT
So,no, the selector crank arm will be spinning around in the upper position, therefore it would never strike the selected latch pin.
The selector crank arm obviously need to strike a selected latch pin in order for the mechanism to initiate transfer. In normal operation, the arm should not ride above selected pins.
Check the position of the 'loading lever' (page 15, fig 30, item 1) to see if it's engaged properly.
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 19, 2023 22:39:02 GMT
10/4 will do it now.
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Post by rascalian69 on Oct 19, 2023 22:57:07 GMT
OK,
When the record loading lever is engage ( lower position) the selector crank will have a up and down motion but no spinning and, so the carousel,no spinning.
Now when I switch the " record loading lever " to the other position, which will put the selector crank in a higher position.
The carousel and the selector crank will keep turning just like in the video in staccato movement and in the upper position so it won't hit a pin.
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Post by jukeboxmarty on Oct 20, 2023 0:28:53 GMT
With the selector crank in the lower position you say there is up and down motion. That means the motor is turning?
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